They're definitely play fighting when they have a go at each other. I think Natasha is teaching Zac how to biff a cat. He runs at her and she grabs him with both paws and sort of flips him over onto his back. Then he has another go and she does the same. This is last night after they'd been playing together for much of the day. Natasha is very motherly. She snuck in one litter of kittens before David could de-sex her.
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