US conservative uses gov health care

I got sort of interested in this Obamacare debate in the US after it was a key issue in the gov shutdown that was on the verge of sending the world economy into another GFC. Not something to be sneezed at. Since then I've come across some more of the weird rhetoric by the conservatives there being opposed to any gov involvement in healthcare.

Here's one: 

He might eventually sign up for health insurance on an exchange, or Medicare when he gets old enough. “I am not a martyr. I’ll have to deal with it and maybe I’ll be forced to get on the bandwagon and say fine,” he said. “But we have not addressed the problem. I honestly believe that socialized medicine will break this country,” he adds, referring to the bitter debates over Medicare in the 1960s. more 

"Break the country"? What? Um, how about stopping blowing countries up? Those bombs are expensive you know, not to mention people's lives.

Here's another from the same article:

“I don’t think that the government should be involved in health care or health insurance,” says Greg Collett, a 41-year-old software developer in Caldwell, Idaho, who would rather pay the fine for now -- $95 the first year -- than signup. more

It actually turns out that this bloke Collet is from the Tea Party (the  wacko wing nut version of GetUp here) who's one of those people proclaiming the end of civilisation as we know it if they get health money off the gov. But wait.......

His family is covered by gov health insurance. Dead set.

"I don’t think that the government should be involved in health care or health insurance," Greg Collett, 41, of Caldwell told NBC News earlier this month. 

Collett, a self-employed software developer by trade, went on to note that his ten children — two biological, eight adopted — are all recipients of health insurance through the government's Medicaid program, and acknowledged that "there are a lot of people out there that’ll cry foul" over the dissonance. more

Those nutty Republicans need to ditch their ideology and take a look at the cold hard facts. The US health system is fucked, has been for a long time. The US social security system is fucked and has been for a long time. Congress and gov, stop making stupid wars and look after your own people.

BTW Australia has had gov involvement in health care for zonks. More so in the early '80's when the Hawke Labor gov introduced Medicare. Strangely, the country isn't broke. In fact we have fuck all gov debt here. Look it up.